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	<title>Comments on: Politics as usual</title>
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	<description>Comeday morm and, O, you're vine! Sendday's eve and, ah, you're vinegar!</description>
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		<title>By: On Second Thought</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2004/08/26/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>On Second Thought</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2004 21:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to who's worse about bringing up politics, I think depends on where you are.  When I lived in Lubbock and Dallas, TX, the R's would always start discussions by assuming everyone was a right-wing R.  I felt the same way you described in your post when I'd admit I was a liberal D.  In DC, people seem to start these discussion and assumes we are all D's.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One time, while driving in TX with a Clinton-Gore sticker on my car, I was run off the road by middle aged man in a SUV who yelled "f*ck Clinton" out his window.  He had Phil Gramm, Bush-Quayle, and NRA sticker on his car. Hopefully, you won't get such treatment from someone with a Kerry-Edwards sticker on their car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to who&#8217;s worse about bringing up politics, I think depends on where you are.  When I lived in Lubbock and Dallas, TX, the R&#8217;s would always start discussions by assuming everyone was a right-wing R.  I felt the same way you described in your post when I&#8217;d admit I was a liberal D.  In DC, people seem to start these discussion and assumes we are all D&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>One time, while driving in TX with a Clinton-Gore sticker on my car, I was run off the road by middle aged man in a SUV who yelled &#8220;f*ck Clinton&#8221; out his window.  He had Phil Gramm, Bush-Quayle, and NRA sticker on his car. Hopefully, you won&#8217;t get such treatment from someone with a Kerry-Edwards sticker on their car.</p>
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		<title>By: Zesmerelda</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2004/08/26/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1#comment-27</link>
		<dc:creator>Zesmerelda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 20:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even when I've agreed with someone's political leanings, if it isn't the right time or place to discuss politics, I say so.  As a manager, I have to say so. You can politely tell people that you don't think it's appropriate to discuss politics at work meeting.  There's nothing wrong with that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you should talk to that supervisor and tell her how uncomfortable she made you -- maybe she isn't aware.  You probably also have recourse through your Human Resources person if you feel discriminated against because of your politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even when I&#8217;ve agreed with someone&#8217;s political leanings, if it isn&#8217;t the right time or place to discuss politics, I say so.  As a manager, I have to say so. You can politely tell people that you don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s appropriate to discuss politics at work meeting.  There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that.</p>
<p>I think you should talk to that supervisor and tell her how uncomfortable she made you &#8212; maybe she isn&#8217;t aware.  You probably also have recourse through your Human Resources person if you feel discriminated against because of your politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice story!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I actually really look forward to these type of discussions, no matter where they occur, because:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1) I'm usually a lot more informed about politics and current events than everyone else;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2) I'm neither Republican nor Democrat so I'm not put on the defensive if everyone else leans one way;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3) I can argue my points pretty well and not get steamed up if someone heartily disagrees with me.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;4) I treat discussions as that--a discussion--and not some kind of crusade that must be won. Sometimes you just gotta say, "Although I understand your points, I just don't see it that way."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think you see more Dems trying to bait people into discussions because they have such an axe to grind. I remember during "Monica-gate" a lot of Republicans had a keen interest in expressing their opinions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The best thing you can probably do when confronted with the situation you described is show open-mindedness and willingness to consider both sides. Don't abandon your beliefs; instead, say "That's an interesting point I'll have to consider."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice story!</p>
<p>I actually really look forward to these type of discussions, no matter where they occur, because:</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m usually a lot more informed about politics and current events than everyone else;</p>
<p>2) I&#8217;m neither Republican nor Democrat so I&#8217;m not put on the defensive if everyone else leans one way;</p>
<p>3) I can argue my points pretty well and not get steamed up if someone heartily disagrees with me.</p>
<p>4) I treat discussions as that&#8211;a discussion&#8211;and not some kind of crusade that must be won. Sometimes you just gotta say, &#8220;Although I understand your points, I just don&#8217;t see it that way.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you see more Dems trying to bait people into discussions because they have such an axe to grind. I remember during &#8220;Monica-gate&#8221; a lot of Republicans had a keen interest in expressing their opinions.</p>
<p>The best thing you can probably do when confronted with the situation you described is show open-mindedness and willingness to consider both sides. Don&#8217;t abandon your beliefs; instead, say &#8220;That&#8217;s an interesting point I&#8217;ll have to consider.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Euroguy</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2004/08/26/politics-as-usual/comment-page-1#comment-25</link>
		<dc:creator>Euroguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm if I was from the US os A I would consider myself as a democrat but that's mostly bush fault I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm if I was from the US os A I would consider myself as a democrat but that&#8217;s mostly bush fault I guess&#8230;</p>
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