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Friday, 9 March 2007

A long, boring horse race

Filed under: — greypilgrim @ 9:33 am

In the interest of changing the subject from my personal problems, I want to express a few random opinions about the 2008 Presidential race, which seemed to have begun sometime around December 2004. Politics has been the least of the many things weighing on my mind, of late, and I haven’t the energy or the time to source the kind of lengthy political op-eds I used to write. But I have been listening to the Newshour podcasts (mainly for Brooks and Shields), and I have been listening to the Washington Week podcast, and I have been listening to various NPR podcasts, as well.

Funny how all the political podcasts I listen to seem to be public television or radio-produced. I used to listen to the Powerline Blog podcast, but I listen to enough conservative talk radio in the car while driving. I don’t need more of that on my iPod.

The 2008 candidates seem to be lining up more or less as expected: McCain, Giuliani, and Romney for the Republicans, and Clinton, Obama, Edwards for the Democrats. There are others who may or may not close the gap between themselves and the leaders, but in general, the six candidates listed above have a shot at their party’s nomination. The others, such as Joe Biden, do not.

I am hesitant to even include Romney among the serious contenders because I do not believe a Mormon can ever be elected President.  This is not the same as the Catholic issue was for John Kennedy; I believe there is a stronger prejudice against Mormons in this country than people realize, mainly because the vast majority of Christians, particularly Evangelicals, believe Mormonism to be a false religion.  Protestants may hold a prejudice against Catholics due to what they see as an over-emphasis on ritual or the Saints or the Mother of God, but at heart, Protestants and Catholics believe in the same fundamentals.  There is no such unity between Protestants, Catholics, and Mormons.  Issues such as whether or not Joseph Smith was a prophet, or whether or not Jesus Christ came to America to spread the gospel following his Ascension, will always stand between any compromise between mainstream Christians and Mormons.

Thus I do not believe Romney stands a chance of being elected.

McCain, on the other hand, is still a favorite of mine. I voted for him in 2000, and I might vote for him again next year. I admit to being repelled by his embrace of George Bush. I think he was a fool for supporting the invasion in Iraq–but then, there were a lot of fools in this country who supported the invasion, myself being one of them. McCain, at least, has remained resolute in calling for more troops, and an increased, last-ditch effort to win in Iraq. He hasn’t changed his mind on that subject, and I respect him for it.

In my opinion, he hasn’t gone far enough. The problem with this war is that we’ve always been trying to fight it on the cheap, with as few troops and as minimal a commitment of the American people as necessary. For such a long and bloody engagement as we’ve had in Iraq, we really needed a draft. Conscription may sound antithetical to the ideals of a free country, but many European countries have mandatory service requirements for their young people. It seems to work pretty well for England that even Prince Harry has to do a stint in the Army; he was sent to Afghanistan just recently, I believe. I’ve always said, I’ll bet Jen and Barbara Bush would look fantastic in desert camo.

Final point: the strain on our armed forces would have been much less over the past four years with a steady influx of new conscripts into the ranks. At the very least, we would not be hearing stories of men and women killed on their third or fourth tour of duty in Iraq.

Anyway, the attraction of McCain, for me, is that he always stands out from the crowd of Republican candidates lining up to lick the boots of pro-lifers and capitalists. And frankly, any Republican so reviled by Rush Limbaugh and his horde of imitators is alright, in my book.

Guiliani is someone I might possibly vote for as well. He is handicapped by his pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay marriage beliefs, but that is really only a handicap in getting the vote of people who have an ideological litmus test for their candidates. Most people don’t vote single issues; hell, most people vote based on no issues whatsoever.

I do find it fascinating how Giuliani seems to be emerging as the favorite of conservative talk radio, however. Hannity and Limbaugh have both all but came out in support of him. When I listen to them discuss Guiliani with conservative callers who are disturbed by his “liberalism,” both Limbaugh and Hannity preach restraint in judging him too harshly and encourage the person to give him a chance. “A Ronald Reagan only comes about once in a generation,” Hannity is fond of saying, apparently implying that Guiliani is no Reagan, but should not be written off for that shortcoming.

In yesterday’s Washington Post George Will also encouraged conservatives to set aside their devotion to ideology and give libs like Rudy Giuliani a chance. Almost in answer to Hannity’s comment about Reagan, Will cites numerous actions Reagan took as governor of California which, today, would be cited as examples of apostasy by conservatives.

Conservatives ought to remember, however, that in 2000, they were told much the same thing about George Bush. Conservatives were told that as long as he appointed conservative judges, nothing else mattered. Conservatives were told they should not insist on ideological purity. “The perfect is the enemy of the good,” to use Will’s formulation. George Bush was, supposedly, a “good” candidate.

I wonder how conservatives feel about that choice, now? Do they feel at all misled by their intellectual lights who told them Bush would be adequate, especially with a strong conservative like Dick Cheney at his side?

On the left, much the same is happening. The idealogical left is being told to set aside their beliefs and vote for the person who can win, in this case (supposedly) Hillary. Never mind her vociferous support of the war, when most on the left are strongly anti-war. She will be adequate, even if not ideologically pure of heart.

I don’t have space here to go into all the reasons I think Hillary is the worst candidate the Democrats could choose to be their nominee. Nor do I have time to defend my support of other candidates, such as John Edwards. I may write another post on the Democrats, at some future date.

Suffice it to say, I do not support Hillary at this point. As I see it, unless the race comes down to Clinton v. Romney, I vote for the not-Hillary person. Especially if that not-Hillary person is McCain or Giuliani. I like both men.

If the Democrats choose someone other than Hillary, such as Edwards or Obama, then things get interesting. I am likely to vote for either one of those Democrats, rather than McCain or Giuliani, but I still would not rule out a Republican vote on my part, in 2008.

6 Comments »

  1. I think McCain would be an absolutely terrible president, not just because I disagree with him on most policies, but because he seems to be completely lacking in spine. He says whatever the person sitting in front of him at that moment wants to hear and he is completley incapable of standing up for himself in debates–he would be completely overwhelmed by the demands of the job, in my opinion.

    I think Giuliani is much smarter and more competent than Dubya, so he’d be an improvement in lots of ways. OTOH, he’s very thin-skinned, secretive, and he’s just a huge bully. I’m afraid that in practice a Giulani presidency would look an awful lot like Dubya’s: lots of tough talk posturing, huge civil liberties violations, complete disdain for the American people and the other two branches of the federal government.

    If I absolutely had to pick one of the three Republican frontrunners to be in the White House, it’d be Giulani, which is why I’m feeling pretty thankful that none of them seems to have any shot of winning a campaign at this point. It’s so weird that two years ago everyone was saying the Dems were on the way to extinction, and now the GOP looks to be in such massive disarray that they’ll be lucky to field a viable presidential candidate anytime in the next decade.

    Comment by Scrivener — Friday, 9 March 2007 @ 4:06 pm

  2. I don’t know that McCain is lacking in spine; I would describe him as ambitious, in the same way that Hillary is ambitious. Sometimes his ambition to be President overpowers his sense of what he believes and, as you say, he says or does what he thinks is expedient at the moment.

    I think his tendency to buck the Republicans and to cooperate with Democrats on domestic issues dilutes the repulsiveness of his toadying to Bush. I don’t think he’d be a bad President, unless he changes after being elected, which is entirely possible. Anyway, campaigns have a way of changing men, too, and I may grow to dislike him once I see him in the heat of battle.

    Speaking of which, I admit that I often find the personal stories of candidates (however tailored for the audience those stories might be) to be extremely compelling. One of the things I like about John Edwards is his personal story–his poor upbringing, the tragedy of losing a child, etc. Same with McCain: veterans’ stories always affect me powerfully, and McCain’s war story is especially powerful. I guess that’s why I have trouble with the word spineless; it smacks of what the Bush people accused him of back in 2000, when they said he had given in to his North Vietnamese torturers.

    Comment by greypilgrim — Saturday, 10 March 2007 @ 8:07 am

  3. Oh, I don’t question his service to his country in the slightest. I thought the Bush peoples’ attacks back in 2000 were absolutely heinous. But it’s one thing to be a hero in wartime and to be strong in the face of torture, and another to be a powerful politician who can control a vast bureaucracy. I think McCain would be incapable of maintaining control of the White House. Granted, I don’t know him personally or anything and maybe I’m being unfair. It just seems like he is always spinning in circles whenever he talks policy–e.g., lots of tough talk about torture, but with absolutely no follow-though, no attention to the details of his own policy, and then a whole bunch of dithering and avoidance after his plan is completely demolished. Campaign finance is his big issue, right? But who the hell knows what he believes on that issue anymore? I’ve lost track of whether this is the week he’s pandering to the fundamentalists or being the “straight-talker” who’s gonna be more moderate.

    I agree with you that his personal narrative is compelling, much moreso than any of the other GOP frontrunners. But he has not figured out a way to tell that story very well, yet. I think Edwards and Obama both have extremely compelling personal narratives as well.

    Comment by Scrivener — Sunday, 11 March 2007 @ 9:45 pm

  4. Your criticisms are the same ones Limbaugh and his cronies are using to bring down McCain, so I do not really expect him to get the nomination. He is too much reviled within the conservative wing of the party. On campaign finance, Limbaugh has been gleefully pointing out how McCain has suggested he will not accept public financing of his campaign, if chosen as the nominee. Although the article I link to says that he will accept public financing if his Democratic opponent will, also, we all know that in effect means he won’t accept public financing.

    It’s difficult to blame him, however. The system is broken, despite his efforts to fix it. What is he supposed to do? Handicap himself on principle, just so his opponents can’t accuse him of a flip flop? Believe me, they will find something else to criticize him for.

    Comment by greypilgrim — Monday, 12 March 2007 @ 7:38 am

  5. Well, if I’m agreeing with Limbaugh about something then I must be wrong.

    Comment by Scrivener — Monday, 12 March 2007 @ 5:06 pm

  6. That has always been my feeling. If Limbaugh dislikes him, McCain must be doing something right.

    Comment by Matthew — Tuesday, 13 March 2007 @ 6:08 am

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