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Thursday, 26 July 2007

The way we were

Filed under: — greypilgrim @ 7:40 am

When you were a teenager, did you sleep more than you do now? When you were a teenager, if someone offered you quality, name-brand clothes, would you turn them down, instead opting to buy your clothes at the Goodwill?

Having a teenager come live with us as a foster child has been both rewarding and revealing. It has been rewarding in that so far, we seem to have lucked out and been given a mannerly, thoughtful, creative teenage son without all the pains and tribulations of raising him for 18 years. It has been revealing in that I think both Lynn and I have long forgotten what it was like to be a teenager.

Case in point: during his first week with us, indeed almost on his first day, Lynn remarked that J. seemed to sleep a lot during the day and stay up late at night. She was worried it was going to disturb B.’s sleep patterns. His first or second day with us, J. slept until around noon, at which point Lynn woke him for lunch with her and B. After eating, he puttered around the house. He did a load of laundry–and folded it–much to Lynn’s surprise. he watched some TV. Then he went back to bed.

Around five, Lynn started to worry that he was going to sleep too much and be up all night. So she released the puppy into the bedroom, and Saffy crawled all over his face and licked him and nibbled his ears until he woke up.

In the coming days, Lynn and I talked concernedly about his sleep patterns, feeling like two old relics of a former era. Was it something to worry about? Should we mention it to him?

We did mention it to him, not as a reprimand or anything like that, but kind of in a joking way. His response was, “I’ll be getting up early for school soon enough. I’m going to take advantage of the summer break for as long as possible.”

This seemed perfectly reasonable to me. We really haven’t thought much more about it. But it reminded me of my own teenage years, and how I would love to have had the luxury of parents who let me sleep as much as I wanted. My parents thought sleeping past eight was a sure sign of delinquency. My grandparents were even worse. When I stayed over with them, around seven and sometimes even earlier, they would start purposefully banging pots and pans around in the kitchen as they made breakfast, in order to get me up.

Then, this week, Lynn started talking to J. about buying him some school clothes. He is very proud of the fact that he buys his clothes at Goodwill, and we think it’s admirable as well. However, some of the clothes he has bought there look pretty natty. I understand, natty is probably the style, these days (oh God, I sound ancient saying that!), but as Lynn remarked to him, his girlfriend might want him to take her to a nice place on a date and he might want to dress up a bit. Lynn said she wants to take him to J.C. Pennys or Peebles and buy him some nice clothes, maybe some Levis, or Ralph Lauren, or Polo.

J.’s response was, “I’m not paying $30.00 for a pair of pants. I’ll go to the Goodwill.” Lynn said, “You wouldn’t be paying for the clothes. I would pay for the clothes.”

Yet he still said no, he wanted to do his shopping at Goodwill. So finally, Lynn said, “Look, I’ll give you a hundred dollars to go shopping at Goodwill, but I am going to buy you some nice clothes, too.”

Will he wear them, though? Who knows. He definitely has a unique style, and it’s hard to imagine him in name brand clothes. Personally, my feeling is, if he wants to buy his clothes at Goodwill, let him. If the pants have holes in them and the shirts are stained…well…I’ve seen college students wearing clothes that look as tattered, or worse.

Anyway, for boys, what they like to wear is not so important as for girls; I imagine with a girl, getting them to dress more discreetly is of primary importance to parents. But with a boy, if he wants to dress like a bum, or a lumberjack, or a punk for that matter, oh well. More harm is done by arguing with him than by acquiescing.

J. is a good kid, and I feel lucky to have him living with us. He aspires to be an artist, a goal I am intent on encouraging him to pursue. I talked with him last weekend about his college ambitions. He wants to go to either Virginia Commonwealth University, which apparently has a good art school, or Berea College in Kentucky, which offers excellent financial aid to underprivileged youths. I am probably going to root for Berea, knowing what I do about the school, and knowing that in general, the small, private college experience is more rewarding than the large, state school experience.

I’ve talked with him at length about comic books and movies, his primary interests. He has spent time with B., coloring and drawing with him, and sometimes just watching SpongeBob. This makes B. incredibly happy, as you can imagine. He already calls J. his brother. J. is a bright, curious, intelligent kid, and I am very happy to have him as a member of our family.

5 Comments »

  1. You can buy brand new clothes at Goodwill if you are patient. I have bought unworn long-sleeve Stafford dress shirts there numerous time (I almost never buy new clothes to work). $3.50 beats $20 by a long shot.

    You’ve never been very open to thrift store though for class reasons, I think: you told me years ago that thrift store were just for the poor. Not true.

    I’m starting to feel a certain age-based conservatism creep up on me, too. Music, clothes, manners of speech. I’m trying to remain open to how the younger people do things, like you, if possible. Unlike you, I will work around the younger set for another 30 years however. I’m not sure if I can keep it being so open-minded.

    Comment by Todd — Thursday, 26 July 2007 @ 9:51 am

  2. Since my mother grew up very poor–more poor than we were when I was growing up, anyway, though we still lived in a trailer–I think she imparted to me this sense that it was disgraceful to “have” to shop at Goodwill or the Salvation Army store. It was equivalent to taking welfare in her mind, I think.

    I am over that, but I still don’t care much for Goodwill or thrift stores. I am not a patient person. I don’t think I have ever bought something at one of these places that I felt was a good deal, and I don’t particularly like spending hours sorting through racks of ugly, mostly used clothing. The sheer amount of clothing hanging all mixed and miscellaneous is pretty intimidating. I’m used to neat, orderly racks of similar clothing organized according to size and kind.

    Comment by greypilgrim — Thursday, 26 July 2007 @ 9:58 am

  3. It’s a game for us. Who can find the velvet Elvis? The coolest lamp dating from the 1950’s? That is one of the main reasons that thrifting is so fun for us.

    Comment by Todd — Thursday, 26 July 2007 @ 10:19 am

  4. I think that’s cool that J. is determined to do it his way. And I also respect his response about sleeping.

    Goodwill … I remember the shame attached to going there as a child. We only went a couple of times, and for a long time, I remembered the stigma. But that was a different time.
    I also lived in a trailer, and I remember the time one of my friends saw me at K-Mart. I was embarrassed until I much later realized that he was at K-Mart too. I didn’t talk about where I lived and I didn’t have the nicest clothes, though my parents took me to Penneys or Sears once a year for school clothes. And even that, I was not satisfied with. I figured the cool kids didn’t shop at Sears, but the truth is, the shopping choices were pretty limited back then, and they probably did shop at Sears. They just got a lot more clothes than I did.

    But when I got older (and got my own money) I grew to appreciate Goodwill. It takes a certain mindset, a certain mood and patience to go.
    I have 50/50 luck with getting clothes at Goodwill or other thrift stores, because I am tall and plus sized. I have to have patience to sort through the ugliest stuff on earth to find one really cool shirt or sweater. But it’s worth it, Matt.
    Some of my favorite clothes in various points in my life have come from thrift shops. My favorite is a Space Camp shirt that Dawn found while we were shopping in Lansing, perhaps. It has holes in the armpits now and I absolutely refuse to get rid of it or to even stop wearing it.
    I wish I had the patience right now to start looking for the Space Camp replacement shirt, but I don’t.

    I think perhaps, Matt, that what you have against Goodwill is the same reaction I had; fleeing from a class mindset.

    Your J. sounds like a great kid so far! Good head on his shoulders, frugality.

    Comment by Mel B. — Thursday, 26 July 2007 @ 12:58 pm

  5. I love the “junk” store as my mother calls it. We did our school clothes shopping there as a kid. I simply would like him to have some new, well “fitting” clothes to go to church in. We all know that first impressions are the most important, so why not have something that is not a 75 year old man’s twead flood pant suit?

    Comment by lynn — Thursday, 26 July 2007 @ 3:09 pm

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