Comments on: Public Bathing http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing Comeday morm and, O, you're vine! Sendday's eve and, ah, you're vinegar! Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:26:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: greypilgrim http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing/comment-page-1#comment-85126 greypilgrim Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:11:28 +0000 http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing#comment-85126 My conscience doesn't feel so bad anymore, though at the time I felt guilty. You are more enlightened than I am, Todd, and I fully concede the point. I didn't have enough college education to liberalize my point of view. My conscience doesn’t feel so bad anymore, though at the time I felt guilty. You are more enlightened than I am, Todd, and I fully concede the point. I didn’t have enough college education to liberalize my point of view.

]]> By: Todd http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing/comment-page-1#comment-85097 Todd Sat, 20 Oct 2007 02:59:34 +0000 http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing#comment-85097 People are being awful nice 'round here. I have to admit that I am a bit shocked that "priggishness" was enough reason for you to turn this guy in. I mean, after all, this is a bathroom. Bathrooms are full of unpleasantness (shit, smells, noises) and most of it concerns peoples who are engaged in getting dirtier, NOT cleaner. This guy was improving the scene as far as I can tell. Much better him than some guy with a nasty BM in the next stall over. Anyway, that's my pov, and I suspect that your conscience feels the same way. People are being awful nice ’round here.

I have to admit that I am a bit shocked that “priggishness” was enough reason for you to turn this guy in. I mean, after all, this is a bathroom. Bathrooms are full of unpleasantness (shit, smells, noises) and most of it concerns peoples who are engaged in getting dirtier, NOT cleaner. This guy was improving the scene as far as I can tell. Much better him than some guy with a nasty BM in the next stall over. Anyway, that’s my pov, and I suspect that your conscience feels the same way.

]]> By: Heather http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing/comment-page-1#comment-82467 Heather Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:16:49 +0000 http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing#comment-82467 Tough call. it's surprising when someone isn't following rules of public conduct, whatever those may be. and there's always the slippery slope thing -- if it's OK for one guy to bathe, then is it OK for two guys? Five? Full nudity? Obstructing the path to the sinks entirely? or one guy to do it regularly, every day, when all you want to do is pee and leave? but then again, he may well have had nowhere else to go. and it didn't appear that he was harming anyone, right? order versus necessity, assuming it was a necessity on his part. tough call. i might've done the same thing, the only (possible) difference being waiting to see if it were a pattern, if he was gonna be in there day after day or something. or, if he acted in a particularly threatening or unsettling manner. Tough call.

it’s surprising when someone isn’t following rules of public conduct, whatever those may be. and there’s always the slippery slope thing — if it’s OK for one guy to bathe, then is it OK for two guys? Five? Full nudity? Obstructing the path to the sinks entirely? or one guy to do it regularly, every day, when all you want to do is pee and leave?

but then again, he may well have had nowhere else to go. and it didn’t appear that he was harming anyone, right?

order versus necessity, assuming it was a necessity on his part. tough call. i might’ve done the same thing, the only (possible) difference being waiting to see if it were a pattern, if he was gonna be in there day after day or something. or, if he acted in a particularly threatening or unsettling manner.

]]> By: Grant http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing/comment-page-1#comment-82399 Grant Fri, 05 Oct 2007 05:28:12 +0000 http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing#comment-82399 Somewhat like you I have vacilated between political ideologies. On one hand screw him! He's obviously a lazy fat bum who is fouling a public bathroom where I, a hard working industrious citizen, may wish to wash my hands. On the other hand, we are all pretty foul creatures in our own right. Maybe not in public as this poor soul but foul none the less. Our only common thread is our humanity, or is it? Somewhat like you I have vacilated between political ideologies. On one hand screw him! He’s obviously a lazy fat bum who is fouling a public bathroom where I, a hard working industrious citizen, may wish to wash my hands. On the other hand, we are all pretty foul creatures in our own right. Maybe not in public as this poor soul but foul none the less. Our only common thread is our humanity, or is it?

]]> By: Stephen Christopher http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing/comment-page-1#comment-82329 Stephen Christopher Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:48:47 +0000 http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/10/04/public-bathing#comment-82329 Don't know whether you did the right thing or not - either way, tough call. My guess, the reason I'd feel guilty: -We're raised to believe innocent until proven guilty. Since you haven't walked in his shoes, you don't know whether to give him compassion or not. -Most of us don't like or enjoy "tattling" - another thing we're raised not to do. -I'd also be affected (based on your description) by a potential dislike / judging of the person. First, they're homeless (practically an indictment to someone who hasn't been there), second they're overweight (which also doesn't make sense to someone who hasn't walked in those shoes). So then I'd feel guilty that my motives might have been less-than-pure. So, there's your free psycho-analysis for the day. ;) Now, sometimes I wish I didn't feel so much empathy for people living that life... Don’t know whether you did the right thing or not - either way, tough call.

My guess, the reason I’d feel guilty:
-We’re raised to believe innocent until proven guilty. Since you haven’t walked in his shoes, you don’t know whether to give him compassion or not.
-Most of us don’t like or enjoy “tattling” - another thing we’re raised not to do.
-I’d also be affected (based on your description) by a potential dislike / judging of the person. First, they’re homeless (practically an indictment to someone who hasn’t been there), second they’re overweight (which also doesn’t make sense to someone who hasn’t walked in those shoes). So then I’d feel guilty that my motives might have been less-than-pure.

So, there’s your free psycho-analysis for the day. ;)

Now, sometimes I wish I didn’t feel so much empathy for people living that life…

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