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	<title>Comments on: The Feeling&#8217;s Mutual</title>
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	<description>Comeday morm and, O, you're vine! Sendday's eve and, ah, you're vinegar!</description>
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		<title>By: greypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/11/01/the-feelings-mutual/comment-page-1#comment-87441</link>
		<dc:creator>greypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was more a "having kids makes one understanding of other parents" type of post.  Not that single, childless people can't be empathetic, but that it's easier for people of like experience to understand each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was more a &#8220;having kids makes one understanding of other parents&#8221; type of post.  Not that single, childless people can&#8217;t be empathetic, but that it&#8217;s easier for people of like experience to understand each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/11/01/the-feelings-mutual/comment-page-1#comment-87383</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 03:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah...sales is callous, no argument from me there, and I'm undoubtedly a bit naive myself about why waitstaff can at times seems so nice and friendly, but I'd like to think that not every friendly waitress/waiter I encountered was so just because of visions of dollar signs dancing before them.  I want (need?) to believe that some friendly conversational waitresses are that way just because they are that type of people.

Anyway, I didn't get the sense from Matt's posts that this was meant as a "having kids makes people more selfless and understanding" sort of debate (correct me if I'm wrong) in a general sense...and speaking of children, one of mine just woke up so I gotta go...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;sales is callous, no argument from me there, and I&#8217;m undoubtedly a bit naive myself about why waitstaff can at times seems so nice and friendly, but I&#8217;d like to think that not every friendly waitress/waiter I encountered was so just because of visions of dollar signs dancing before them.  I want (need?) to believe that some friendly conversational waitresses are that way just because they are that type of people.</p>
<p>Anyway, I didn&#8217;t get the sense from Matt&#8217;s posts that this was meant as a &#8220;having kids makes people more selfless and understanding&#8221; sort of debate (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) in a general sense&#8230;and speaking of children, one of mine just woke up so I gotta go&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/11/01/the-feelings-mutual/comment-page-1#comment-87301</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any sales situation they see you not as a person, but as a dollar sign. Any of us are naive to think otherwise. They're not nice to you because they like you. They're nice to you because they want a larger tip. It's not the restaurant's bottom line; it's their own.

I'm not saying waitresses should be shitty to kids.  I'm explaining that sales is callous, and you're just upset because you've seen the callous underbelly of waitressing. My point is you shouldn't take this attitude of the waitress -- a salesperson -- and extrapolate it to the general population of people without children, as you did in your response to Mel B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any sales situation they see you not as a person, but as a dollar sign. Any of us are naive to think otherwise. They&#8217;re not nice to you because they like you. They&#8217;re nice to you because they want a larger tip. It&#8217;s not the restaurant&#8217;s bottom line; it&#8217;s their own.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying waitresses should be shitty to kids.  I&#8217;m explaining that sales is callous, and you&#8217;re just upset because you&#8217;ve seen the callous underbelly of waitressing. My point is you shouldn&#8217;t take this attitude of the waitress &#8212; a salesperson &#8212; and extrapolate it to the general population of people without children, as you did in your response to Mel B.</p>
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		<title>By: greypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/11/01/the-feelings-mutual/comment-page-1#comment-87296</link>
		<dc:creator>greypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 12:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm glad someone is one my side.  I was feeling pretty lonely there :)

On the issue of waitresses bumping up tabs, I'd like to think that not every server has the restaurant's bottom line as their primary concern.  At the very least it does the bottom line no good to treat a certain class of people, whether they be children or gays or Jews, as "vermin" (as Dawn said).  I mean, this waitress basically says that families with small children should never set foot in a nice restaurant, but should be relegated to the ghetto of T.G.I. Fridays (which in my experience has wait-staff who can be just as unfriendly to families as in any "fancy" restaurant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone is one my side.  I was feeling pretty lonely there <img src='http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>On the issue of waitresses bumping up tabs, I&#8217;d like to think that not every server has the restaurant&#8217;s bottom line as their primary concern.  At the very least it does the bottom line no good to treat a certain class of people, whether they be children or gays or Jews, as &#8220;vermin&#8221; (as Dawn said).  I mean, this waitress basically says that families with small children should never set foot in a nice restaurant, but should be relegated to the ghetto of T.G.I. Fridays (which in my experience has wait-staff who can be just as unfriendly to families as in any &#8220;fancy&#8221; restaurant).</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn</title>
		<link>http://sodsbrood.com/pilgrim/2007/11/01/the-feelings-mutual/comment-page-1#comment-87214</link>
		<dc:creator>Dawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 03:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so totally with you on this, Matt, and I'd like to think I would be even if I DIDN'T have children.  Want to get a good tip from me?  Be nice to my kids!  Nothing like going to a restaurant where your kids are treated like people rather than vermin and, even better, where they are doted on just a bit.  If my kid's being a brat, yeah, I'll take him out of your restaurant in a heartbeat, but if my kid's just being a kid (and not a particularly loud or difficult...again, brat...kid), I want to eat out like the rest of you.

Best places to eat out with kids:  Baan Thai in Fort Wayne and Kotobuku (Japanese) in Toledo.  Come to think of it, I've yet to have a bad experience with waitstaff in a Japanese, Thai, or Indian restaurant with kids. Maybe I've just been lucky or maybe there's a cultural appreciation of children that's lacking in the more whitebread American restaurants.  Who knows.  But if I have a good experience I tip well and I will return again and again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so totally with you on this, Matt, and I&#8217;d like to think I would be even if I DIDN&#8217;T have children.  Want to get a good tip from me?  Be nice to my kids!  Nothing like going to a restaurant where your kids are treated like people rather than vermin and, even better, where they are doted on just a bit.  If my kid&#8217;s being a brat, yeah, I&#8217;ll take him out of your restaurant in a heartbeat, but if my kid&#8217;s just being a kid (and not a particularly loud or difficult&#8230;again, brat&#8230;kid), I want to eat out like the rest of you.</p>
<p>Best places to eat out with kids:  Baan Thai in Fort Wayne and Kotobuku (Japanese) in Toledo.  Come to think of it, I&#8217;ve yet to have a bad experience with waitstaff in a Japanese, Thai, or Indian restaurant with kids. Maybe I&#8217;ve just been lucky or maybe there&#8217;s a cultural appreciation of children that&#8217;s lacking in the more whitebread American restaurants.  Who knows.  But if I have a good experience I tip well and I will return again and again.</p>
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